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Loviatar · Feb 28, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasareth

Here you guys go:

the official word

Gaile and the frog have spoken and i thank you for bringing the glad tidings.

i would have happily played with one and am very happy with two.

makes note to find the rest of that frog talk

Malchior Devenholm · Feb 28, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

O TY GOD!

I now have room for both professions+an extra slot for PVP-YES YES YES YES YES

Ensabah Nur · Feb 28, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Well I see Anet has decided to shaft the majority of previous customers of thier product. Thanks Anet, it was fun while it lasted.

Mordakai · Feb 28, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

close thread.

Ensabah Nur · Feb 28, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

No, we're better off with a slot to play each primary in all content/chapters( I don't PvP at all as previously stated)
Yes, close thread. It's pointless now since Anet didn't listen to the majority of potential consumers. Matane-

Loviatar · Feb 28, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensabah Nur

It's pointless now since Anet didn't listen to the majority of potential consumers. Matane-

a quick run of other sites shows almost universal relief and happiness at getting 2 slots.

note that most guru posters are not mad as well

just a few

Ensabah Nur · Feb 28, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Yea well as I stated before "Fools and thier money are soon parted." -Unknown

Slice it anyway you want to, fact is Anet is walking out on the majority of the people that brought them to the dance.

My main concern with Anets bad decision is how this will affect guilds, there will be guild members now that buy Factions and keep it seperate to get all 8 slots and be in a different guild than they would be in if they linked. Thereby ruining many of the current guilds by splitting them up. Good job on encouraging Guilds,teamwork and Co-op play Anet. If they gave us 8 total slots either way this wouldn't be an issue.

Lasher Dragon · Feb 28, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17

I guess I just don't understand why we can't have 1 slot for each profession, and an extra slot for PVP only. Seems so logical...

Gli · Feb 28, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Oh well... I wonder what a 100% unlocked account will land me on eBay.

Katari · Feb 28, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

that has been shot down by Anet as giving people with money an advantage over people who do not have money for the extra slots.

been shot down many times already.

Yeah, because people with more money can't but additional accounts. So since they can't buy char slots either, the problem is solved. Flawless logic.

-Some of the above may be sarcasm.

Katari · Feb 28, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Arrgh, what is wrong with the forums tonight?

The Great Al · Feb 28, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

the only reason some people are 'relieved' is because Anet originally stated, or it was stated somewhere, that we were getting 1 slot, which is ridiculous. 2 slots is still subpar, and is only making some people happy because they originally heard '1 slot only'

Ensabah Nur · Feb 28, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38

*Begin Dilemma*
Leader of Guild speaking to guild members:

If you aren't aware yet Anet has decided to decrease the number of character slots from 4 to 2 if we combine Factions with Prophecies. This will mean that some guild members may choose to keep GWF seperate from GWP. Those members won't be able to be in the current incarnation of this guild with those new GWF characters. Thereby essentially splitting with/leaving the guild. I have no intention of running 2 seperate guilds one for GWP(GWP&GWF combined) and one for GWF alone. Nor buying another cape, guild hall etc. not to mention keeping track of 2 seperate rosters.

I do know I've worked hard over the last *however long*(in my case 10+ years. yes way before Anet even existed) to keep our guild going, just as most of you have worked hard since you've joined our guild. I don't want to see Anet screw this guild up we've put too much effort & time into it.
*End Dilemma*

As you can clearly see Anets decision may cause harm by weakening guilds through seperation. If they gave us 8 total character slots either way there would be no reason whatsoever not to combine GWF with GWP and therefore less chances of ruining guilds in this manner. Still think it was a good decision?

LaserLight · Feb 28, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Simple. Actually, I discussed this real-time with several people in LA Int. D1, after Gaile left, and we pretty much nailed down what has to be Anet's reasoning. Or at least is as close as I believe we'll get to their reasoning.

It is very much not cost-effective for Anet to offer an overabundance of character slots. Now wait a sec! In this case, I'm going to describe an overabundance as more than the number of primary classes +2 for those weird people who need two PvP slots.

Now, given that...Anet can't give four slots to people upgrading their Prophecies accounts, because if they did, they would then have stablished a precedent for four slots in future expansion-like things. This seems like an awesome idea on the surface...until you realize that managing data for accounts which, over the course of just four expansions, will contain sixteen characters is getting unwieldy. Let it continue much past four and unwieldy becomes intolerable. As for retaining those slots via separate accounts...those are separate accounts. There's no drastic server load for storing and switching thirty-character keys around various nationality servers, nor is there as big a hassle as there would be trying to tie that many characters into a single staggeringly large account.

I'm aware I'm going to be slapped hard for this, but it has to be one of, if not the, reason Anet won't release more than two slots a chapter. And really, when you have twenty-eight slots for thirty professions, are you honestly telling me you're going to need a slot for every single one of them?

Lady Lozza · Feb 28, 2006, 05:02 AM // 05:02

/dance

Yay! Two slots

1 ritualist, 1 for re-making my original ranger, 1 pvp/test pve char, 3 original

Ensabah, while I understand what you are getting at, most players who want 1:1 slots vs professions, already have two accounts. If they are not already in the guild with both accounts then maybe they don't want to be.

EternalTempest · Feb 28, 2006, 06:08 AM // 06:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensabah Nur

If you aren't aware yet Anet has decided to decrease the number of character slots from 4 to 2.

They have never stated/promised they were going to give 8 slots if you owned both games.

In fact, all along they hinted at least *one* maybe more. They have confirmed they are giving us 2 instead of 1.

I infact, share my single account with my wife, we each have two slots, now we each have 3 slots.

Even in chapter 1, they gave you four slots for 6 professions. They are keeping the same ratio 6 slots for 8 professions (unless you want to split your account).

Thank you Anet for giving us 2 slots, you have kept me very happy.

LaserLight · Feb 28, 2006, 09:28 AM // 09:28

Hell, they're actually giving us a better ratio, Tempest.

4/6 simplifies to 2/3

6/8 simplifies to 3/4

2/3 < 3/4

Of course, people don't realize/want to admit that in their fervor to demonize Anet, but we're really getting a deal here, fellas. Whether you'll admit it or not.

CorstedPirate · Feb 28, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25

The ratio will only contiue to get better as long as it is 2 slots per chapter. I would have been unhappy with only one new slot. Just one wouldn't have allowed much room to experiment, 2 leaves lots of room.

I do know I've worked hard over the last *however long*(in my case 10+ years. yes way before Anet even existed) to keep our guild going, just as most of you have worked hard since you've joined our guild. I don't want to see Anet screw this guild up we've put too much effort & time into it. If that is enough to break up your guild, sorry, but it is amazing you've stayed together as long as you claim. Most won't break up over it, I don't think. Most people are pretty happy about 2 slots actually. Regardless of all the talk that it would only be 1.

As you can clearly see Anets decision may cause harm by weakening guilds through seperation. If they gave us 8 total character slots either way there would be no reason whatsoever not to combine GWF with GWP and therefore less chances of ruining guilds in this manner. Still think it was a good decision? I think it is a fabulous decision. Those people that absolutely have to have one of each main profession have purchased additional accounts. They can continue to do the same. If anyone had that big of an issue with it, they probally would not have purchased the game to begin with.

SaucE · Feb 28, 2006, 12:38 PM // 12:38

I would rather be able to put 6 characters through both worlds than to have 4 characters in each of the worlds. 2 more slots is all I need cause I have already come to the conclusion I do not like playing as a Monk or Ele. So 2 more for the 2 new professions is all me needs.

/me is very excited with all the recent news

Starsky-sama · Feb 28, 2006, 02:10 PM // 14:10

guys should check out gwonline.net forum.
a lot more negativity there than here for sure.
theyll be losing quite a few ppl. (so those players say. If those players actually believe what their saying or just venting out their anger at that time)

/me. Im content atm.